[esp-r] Res: Res: AW: Scaling up my Model

[Ian McCall]

Hello Jon, 

I'm currently "back up and running"! 

Thanks again,

Ian


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De: Jon Hand <jon at esru.strath.ac.uk>
Para: Ian McCall <ijmccall at yahoo.com>; Achim.geissler 
<achim.geissler at intergga.ch>; ESP-r <esp-r at lists.strath.ac.uk>
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 9 de Agosto de 2010 17:11:36
Assunto: RE: [esp-r]  Res: AW:    Scaling up my Model


The key word in the previous email is "context menu". I will
attempt a more pedantic description of the process.... 

Go to browse/edit/simulate -> model context -> integrated
performance view and in that menu there are options to
define how many seasonal assessments to run (you want
the option "five seasons (typical week)".  

If it picks up the season definition from the "climatelist" file
then you can proceed to use the "re-scan climate for seasons
or day ratios" option.  You should also define at least
one performance metric to be reported on after the
assessments have been run and if you have an environmental
control you can define one or more " demand sets".

When you exit from this menu the information will be recorded
in the model configuration file and the next time you go into
the simulation menu you will find that there are 5 simulation
parameter sets defined (matching what you defined in the
initial menu).  You can then either run the assessments
manually or in the simulation menu you can select the
"integrated performance view option (just below the visual impact option).

-Jon Hand
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From: esp-r-bounces at lists.strath.ac.uk [esp-r-bounces at lists.strath.ac.uk] On 
Behalf Of Ian McCall [ijmccall at yahoo.com]
Sent: 09 August 2010 14:02
To: Achim.geissler; ESP-r
Subject: [esp-r]  Res: AW:    Scaling up my Model

Hello Achim,

I have clicked that option (even before posing the question on the mailing list) 
and what I get is a pop-up window that says:

"Normally an integrated simulation is invoked by which
the heat, fluid, electrical power and light flows within
combined building/plant models may be evaluated."

and then disappears. Then I click "integrated simulation" and I get the regular 
menus and simulation options. When I execute the simulation I don't see anything 
that indicates that the pre-defined weeks were used. When I graph the ambient 
climate temperature shows a typical ambient temperature profile with no 
repeating weekly temperature profile as I would have expected. Where did I go 
off track?

Regards,

Ian

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De: Achim.geissler <achim.geissler at intergga.ch>
Para: IanMcCall <ijmccall at yahoo.com>; ESP-r <esp-r at lists.strath.ac.uk>
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 9 de Agosto de 2010 11:01:12
Assunto: AW: [esp-r] Scaling up my Model

Hi Ian

look for the "model context - integrated performance view" (ipv) menu. This 
allows for automatic calculation of the defined weeks, input of scaling factors 
etc. It produces a concise summary of the results.

Best
Achim



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Von: "Ian McCall" <ijmccall at yahoo.com>
An: "ESP-r" <esp-r at lists.strath.ac.uk>
Betreff: [esp-r] Scaling up my Model
Datum: 09/08/10 11:36

Hello ESP-r Community,

Hence the last note I have looked into the scaling feature of ESP-r. I have 
successfully followed the steps outlined in chapter 6 of the ESP-r Cookbook 
(version Nov 2008). I have created a weather file for my city (Nantes) and 
selected the typical weeks for the winter1, spring, sum! mer, fall and winter2.. 
I have updated the "climatelist" etc... but then the chapter in ESP-r Cookbook 
Chapter 6 just stops and does not describe how execute simulation using the 5 
ideal weeks / scaling option.  Is this an automatic scaling option or do I have 
to run the simulation 5 times with each respective "ideal week" and then 
self-scale the results?  Any ideas?

Cheers,

Ian

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Hello ESP-r,

I am looking for all the information possible related to scaling up a model. The
cookbook states that scaling up skills and working practices  to cope with the
level of complexity found in realistic projects has  traditionally been
accomplished via mentors or workshops. Since those two options are not really
available to me does someone have a document that covers these details?


The cookbook briefly mentions some techniques (e.g. chapter 6 talks about for
example, how to achieve annual heating and cooling for a whole
building without
simulating every day etc.... i.e. it reports initial scaling factors that can be
used to convert from short period
assessments to seasonal performance data.).


Regards,

Ian




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