<html><head><style type="text/css"></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div>Hello Jon, I'm currently "back up and running"! </div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"> Thanks again, Ian <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><hr size="1">De: Jon Hand <jon@esru.strath.ac.uk> Para: Ian McCall <ijmccall@yahoo.com>; Achim.geissler <achim.geissler@intergga.ch>; ESP-r <esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk> Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 9 de Agosto de 2010 17:11:36 Assunto: RE: [esp-r] Res: AW: Scaling up my Model The key word in the previous email is "context menu". I will attempt a more pedantic description of the process.... Go to browse/edit/simulate -> model context -> integrated performance view and in that menu there are options to define how many seasonal assessments to run (you want the option "five seasons (typical week)".  If it picks up the season definition from the "climatelist" file then you can proceed to use the "re-scan climate for seasons or day ratios" option.  You should also define at least one performance metric to be reported on after the assessments have been run and if you have an environmental control you can define one or more " demand sets". When you exit from this menu the information will be recorded in the model configuration file and the next time you go into the simulation menu you will find that there are 5 simulation parameter sets defined (matching what you defined in the initial menu).  You can then either run the assessments manually or in the simulation menu you can select the "integrated performance view option (just below the visual impact option). -Jon Hand ________________________________________ From: <a ymailto="mailto:esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk" href="mailto:esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk">esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk</a> [<a ymailto="mailto:esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk" href="mailto:esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk">esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk</a>] On Behalf Of Ian McCall [<a ymailto="mailto:ijmccall@yahoo.com" href="mailto:ijmccall@yahoo.com">ijmccall@yahoo.com</a>] Sent: 09 August 2010 14:02 To: Achim.geissler; ESP-r Subject: [esp-r]  Res: AW:    Scaling up my Model Hello Achim, I have clicked that option (even before posing the question on the mailing list) and what I get is a pop-up window that says: "Normally an integrated simulation is invoked by which the heat, fluid, electrical power and light flows within combined building/plant models may be evaluated." and then disappears. Then I click "integrated simulation" and I get the regular menus and simulation options. When I execute the simulation I don't see anything that indicates that the pre-defined weeks were used. When I graph the ambient climate temperature shows a typical ambient temperature profile with no repeating weekly temperature profile as I would have expected. Where did I go off track? Regards, Ian ________________________________ De: Achim.geissler <<a ymailto="mailto:achim.geissler@intergga.ch" href="mailto:achim.geissler@intergga.ch">achim.geissler@intergga.ch</a>> Para: IanMcCall <<a ymailto="mailto:ijmccall@yahoo.com" href="mailto:ijmccall@yahoo.com">ijmccall@yahoo.com</a>>; ESP-r <<a ymailto="mailto:esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk" href="mailto:esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk">esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk</a>> Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 9 de Agosto de 2010 11:01:12 Assunto: AW: [esp-r] Scaling up my Model Hi Ian look for the "model context - integrated performance view" (ipv) menu. This allows for automatic calculation of the defined weeks, input of scaling factors etc. It produces a concise summary of the results. Best Achim --------- Original-Nachricht -------- Von: "Ian McCall" <<a ymailto="mailto:ijmccall@yahoo.com" href="mailto:ijmccall@yahoo.com">ijmccall@yahoo.com</a>> An: "ESP-r" <<a ymailto="mailto:esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk" href="mailto:esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk">esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk</a>> Betreff: [esp-r] Scaling up my Model Datum: 09/08/10 11:36 Hello ESP-r Community, Hence the last note I have looked into the scaling feature of ESP-r. I have successfully followed the steps outlined in chapter 6 of the ESP-r Cookbook (version Nov 2008). I have created a weather file for my city (Nantes) and selected the typical weeks for the winter1, spring, sum! mer, fall and winter2.. I have updated the "climatelist" etc... but then the chapter in ESP-r Cookbook Chapter 6 just stops and does not describe how execute simulation using the 5 ideal weeks / scaling option.  Is this an automatic scaling option or do I have to run the simulation 5 times with each respective "ideal week" and then self-scale the results?  Any ideas? 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The cookbook states that scaling up skills and working practices  to cope with the level of complexity found in realistic projects has  traditionally been accomplished via mentors or workshops. Since those two options are not really available to me does someone have a document that covers these details? The cookbook briefly mentions some techniques (e.g. chapter 6 talks about for example, how to achieve annual heating and cooling for a whole building without simulating every day etc.... i.e. it reports initial scaling factors that can be used to convert from short period assessments to seasonal performance data.). 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