[esp-r] Re: CEN standard 13791 + CEN 15251

[paul strachan]

Dear Gunter,

With regard to the 13791 standard, the tests have been included in the 
validation section of ESP-r - select "Standards" in the menu choice.

You can run the tests yourself to confirm all are within the Standard 
tolerance.

The models are in the source code distribution ... 
esp-r/validation/CEN/13791/

Regards
Paul

Pueltz, Gunter wrote:
> Dear ESRUs,
>
> following questions concerning the two CEN standards 13791 + 15251:
>
> 1) CEN standard 13791:
> Has ESP-r been successfully validated according to CEN standard 13791
> meanwhile ?
> Your answer to my last request has been very hopefully (see below) ...
> In case of - Is an official certificate from ESRU available for this
> successfull validation ?
>
> 2)  CEN standard 15251:
> The final version of CEN standard 15251 (2007) includes a special evaluation
> scheme for
> acceptable operative (= resultant) temperatures during summer in rooms
> WITHOUT any cooling 
> plant (see CEN standard 15251, appendix A.2):
> The maximum operative temperature is defined as a function of "mean ambient
> air temperature",
> which must be averaged from ambient air temperatures of the last 7 days (24
> hours) -
> similar to ASHRAE standard no. 55.
> Now my question: Is a new feature in the res-module available, which is able
> to
> do such an evaluation of operative temperatures - similar to the evaluation
> scheme
> according to ISO 7730 (valid for rooms WITH a cooling plant) ?
> As frequencies of overriding the given limitations is also defined in CEN
> standard 15251,
> this new feature must be able to calculate the number of yearly hours (or
> percentage of time),
> when the given maxima are passed (too high operative temperatures during
> summer); this must be done
> according to the defined classes (I - II - III - IV) of thermal comfort (see
> attached example from 
> the CEN standard 15251); thus an adequate output (perhaps in excel-format ?)
> would help to perform 
> such an evaluation according to CEN standard 15251 ...
>
> To do this evaluation via excel would be very labour-intensive and time
> consuming :-((((
>
> Regards,
> Gunter
>
> --
> Dr. Gunter Pültz
>
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>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: P Strachan [mailto:paul at esru.strath.ac.uk]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 2:28 PM
>> To: Pueltz, Gunter
>> Cc: Jon Hand
>> Subject: RE: [ESP-r] CEN standard 13791
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Gunter,
>>
>> We have to pass the 13791 tests for UK accreditation, 
>> together with other tests. We are in the final stages of this 
>> - I will announce on the list, hopefully in the next 2 weeks, 
>> that all the tests have be passed.
>>
>> Regards
>> Paul
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-esp-r at lists.strath.ac.uk on behalf of Pueltz, Gunter
>> Sent: Wed 09-Aug-06 7:27 AM
>> To: 'esp-r at lists.strath.ac.uk'
>> Subject: [ESP-r] CEN standard 13791
>>  
>> Dear ESRUs,
>>
>> the new distribution of ESP-r, ver 11.1, contains several test cases
>> concerning the CEN standard 13791 (see attached file).
>> But I am not only interested in the test cases described in 
>> this standard -
>> I am interested in an official certificate from ESRU, which 
>> validates that
>> ESP-r does COMPLETELY fullfill the requirements of the CEN 
>> standard 13791 !
>>
>> Is there such an official certificate from ESRU available ?
>>
>> -Gunter
>>
>> --
>> Gunter Pültz
>>
>> Müller-BBM GmbH
>> Robert-Koch-Straße 11
>> 82152 Planegg
>> Telefon +49 (0)89 85602 - 336
>> Telefax +49 (0)89 85602 - 111
>> http://www.MuellerBBM.de 
>>
>>
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