[esp-r] Re: esp-r Digest, Vol 51, Issue 5

Francesco Frontini francesco.frontini at polimi.it
Fri Oct 8 17:51:25 BST 2010


Dear Dimitris,
if you want to model different blind positions you can use the bidirectional
model we implemented two years ago in ESP-r under "advanced optics".
You can find more information about the bidirectional model (we call it
Black Box Model) in the proceedings of the BS conference 2009 in Glasgow.
Here the link:

http://www.ibpsa.org/proceedings/BS2009/BS09_0928_935.pdf

The idea is to model the whole system (glass + blind) as a double glaze unit
with the effective direct tau and g-value.
As the normal TMC control you can use as set point the incident radiation on
the glass and the indoor temperature to change between 6 blind positions.
But as I said you can find further information in the papers.
For sure you can also ask me for specific problems.

Hope to help you somehow, best regards

Francesco

Dr. Francesco Frontini, MEng PhD in Buildings Engineering

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> Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 19:06:38 +0200
> From: Achim Geissler <achim.geissler at intergga.ch>
> Subject: [esp-r] Re: Blind / Shutter Controls etc.
> To: Dimitris Mantas <lmd26 at tee.gr>
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> Hi Dimitris
>
> for the switching of TMC type "windows" you do not use the "optics
> control". You need to go in the menu "construction materials", choose the
> zone of interest and then choose "transparent layer properties". Then you
> are confronted with the choices you probably remember. The setup is not part
> of the .ctl file but part of the .tmc file.
>
> Best
> Achim
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>
> On Oct 7, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Dimitris Mantas wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I 'am trying to locate where I can impose blind/shutter controls.
> > (e.g switching the optics of windows when radiation, temp or other is
> above a value).
> >
> > I 've tried the optics controls but can't figure out what data to input.
> >
> > First, I put a sensor, sensoring radiation on a surface but the program
> reports back it's going to sense db temp (instead of radiation) on that
> surface.
> > Then the actuator is set to actuate the values for the construction
> chosen (e.g. double, low e glaz.), however I am not asked what the switched
> values should be
> > (as it was done in previous esp-r versions).
> > In in the third menu (period) can't really understand what kind of input
> is required by the program
> > (bidirectional ?? and values such as -30, 1 etc.).
> >
> > Could you please give me a hint of what to do ?
> >
> > I suppose same querries may emerge for the case of lighting controls etc.
> >
> > Searched the cookbook but couldn't find my answers.
> >
> > thanx in advance,
> >
> > Dimitris
> >
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