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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=DE-CH link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Joćo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>be aware that CFCs can be used as external surfaces, only (I forgot to mention that).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Good luck!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Achim<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>---------------------------------------------------------------------<br>T +41 61 467 44 51<br><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:achim.geissler@fhnw.ch"><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>achim.geissler@fhnw.ch</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.fhnw.ch/iebau"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>www.fhnw.ch/iebau</span></a></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><br></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>---------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Joćo Santos [mailto:joao.portugal.santos@gmail.com] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 13. Februar 2012 20:48<br><b>An:</b> Geissler Achim<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [esp-r] Re: Defining a sliding window in ESP-r<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dear Achim <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>First of all, thanks for such short notice response!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>My main concern is the behaviour of the glazing while is closed, (mainly the expected overheating of the sunspace), so that“s why I need precise measurements of the glazing/shading system. As you say i'll have to choose ( I need some more exploration). <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As for the schedule I was thinking to apply the uncertainty, because the manual operation of windows is not clock sharp! <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I“ll have too use a sensitivity analysis... <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>But I`think I“ll use the uncertainty item apllied to the entry data, mainly the dimensions of the model.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for all the tips!<br><br> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>2012/2/13 Geissler Achim <<a href="mailto:achim.geissler@fhnw.ch" target="_blank">achim.geissler@fhnw.ch</a>><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear Joćo</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>it is not quite clear, why a sliding window needs more layers in the glazing system? When open, I would expect the opening to be the main path for energy exchange (ventilation). The doubling of the glazing can most likely be neglected (if that is what your concern is). GSLedit or WIS is a question of whether you plan to use standard TMCs (then "Window" or "WIS") or CFCs (then GSLedit).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The opening schedule you will have to decide for yourself. There is no "given" such schedule. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>No, the uncertainty item in ESP-r focuses on uncertainties in entry data, however not on schedules / control schemes (as far as I am aware). You could cover this by a sensitivity analysis, however (simulate several possible schedule scenarios, some of which cover possible extremes).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Achim</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;border-color:currentColor currentColor currentColor blue'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-color:currentColor currentColor'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk" target="_blank">esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk" target="_blank">esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk</a>] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Joćo Santos<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 13. Februar 2012 12:31<br><b>An:</b> <a href="mailto:esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk" target="_blank">esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk</a><br><b>Betreff:</b> [esp-r] Defining a sliding window in ESP-r</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Good morning<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I“m building a model of a sunspace and the correspondent adjacent space. The sunspace has sliding windows which I have some difficulty in defining. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>First because I need to have more definition in the layers that compose the glazing system, I“dont know which third party tool to use, GSLedit, WIS, or other more precise. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> Second because I“don“t know which schedule of openings to apply. Ok, there will be a defined operation according to the occupancy, but I“would like to add some uncertainty in the operation of it. Does the Uncertainty item in ESP-r deals with questions like this?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks in advance <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Joćo Santos<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>esp-r mailing list<br><a href="mailto:esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk" target="_blank">esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk</a><br><a href="http://lists.strath.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/esp-r" target="_blank">http://lists.strath.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/esp-r</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>