<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Per<div><br></div><div>if you haven't already found it in the mean time: I think it is the option "upgrade files" in the "preferences" menu found in the main project manager menu (more or less at the bottom).</div><div><br></div><div>Best</div><div>Achim</div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 10, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Per Haugaard wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><div>Dear Achim and list,</div> <div> </div> <div>Thank you for your inputs. </div> <div>I can't seem to find how or where to convert from the old to the new .geo-format.</div> <div>Any inputs on this?</div> <div><br><br>_______<br>--- Den <b>fre 10/12/10 skrev Achim.geissler <i><<a href="mailto:achim.geissler@intergga.ch">achim.geissler@intergga.ch</a>></i></b>:<br></div> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><br>Fra: Achim.geissler <<a href="mailto:achim.geissler@intergga.ch">achim.geissler@intergga.ch</a>><br>Emne: AW: [esp-r] Re: Non-rectangular obstruction block<br>Til: <a href="mailto:perhaugaard@yahoo.dk">perhaugaard@yahoo.dk</a>, "ESP-r_ny" <<a href="mailto:esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk">esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk</a>><br>Dato: fredag 10. december 2010 12.16<br><br> <div id="yiv1358892437">Hi Per<br><br>the message in regard to materials / constructions is not important, if you are not using the corresponding construction. Otherwise it is probably easiest to edit the construction in the database editor.<br><br>In regard to obstructions:<br>The .obs file is not used when using the new .geo format. Obstructions are part of the new .geo files. <br><br>You must convert your .geo files to the new format. Then I would suggest defining one or two simple obstructions and converting only one to polygons.<br><br>Something like this should end up in the .geo file:<br><br># <br># block entities:<br>#  *obs = obstructions<br>*block_start,20 20 # geometric blocks<br>*obs,-4.900,-7.000,0.000,5.800,1.000,2.950,0.000,blk_1,extern_wall  # block  1<br>*obs,1.200,-7.000,0.000,3.600,1.000,2.950,0.000,blk_2,extern_wall  # block  2<br>*obsp,8,6,blk_3,extern_wall  # block  3 coords follow:<br>5.200,-7.000,0.000,8.800,-7.000,0.000,8.300,-6.000,0.000,5.200,-6.000,0.000  # 1-4 <br>5.200,-7.000,2.950,8.800,-7.000,2.950,8.300,-6.000,2.950,5.200,-6.000,2.950  # 5-8 <br><br>You then need to calculate shading via the menu options. See the tester model "sloped_obstr".<br><br>Best <br>Achim<br><br>--------- Original-Nachricht --------<br>Von: <a href="mailto:perhaugaard@yahoo.dk">perhaugaard@yahoo.dk</a><br>An: "ESP-r_ny" <<a href="mailto:esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk">esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk</a>>, "Achim.geissler" <<a href="mailto:achim.geissler@intergga.ch">achim.geissler@intergga.ch</a>><br>Betreff: [esp-r] Re: Non-rectangular obstruction block<br>Datum: 10/12/10 11:06<br><br> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign="top">Dear Achim and list,<br><br>I updated ESP-r to version 11.9 to include non-rectangular polygon obstruction blocks. <br><br>The first thin I noticed loading the model after the update was the following error mesasge:<br><br>"Using inst! alled version of esprc file.<br>When scanning materials db looking for legacy index          40<br>no match found for material named Concrete med density (1800) : Blockwork (UK code)"<br><br>Is there an easy workaround for this?<br><br>Secondly the conversion of obstruction blocks to polygons seem to fail and I cannot enter coordinates for the 8 vertices's and hence make polygon obstruction block. Can I enter this manually within the obs-file and how would the syntax look like?<br><br>Below you will find the present output when making polygon obstruction blocks:<br><br># site obstruction file defined in ../zones/Sydlig_del.obs<br># associated with zone geometry file ../zones/Sydlig_del.geo<br> 0. 0.   # dummy values for site position<br>    2    # no obstruction blocks<br># origin X Y Z, width, depth, height, rot angle, descr, material<br>0.000 0.000 0.! 000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 Top roof_1 # block 1<br>0.000 0..000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 new_blk NONE # block 2<br># grid surf X surf Z<br>    15    15<br><br>Best regard<br><br>Per Haugaard<br><br><br>______________________<br><br>Per Haugaard,<br>Grøndals Parkvej 50, st<br>2720 Vanløse<br>Denmark<br><br>mobil: +45 26 39 06 40<br>E-mail: <a href="mailto:perhaugaard@yahoo.dk">perhaugaard@yahoo.dk</a><br><br>--- Den <strong>tors 9/12/10 skrev Achim.geissler <em><<a href="mailto:achim.geissler@intergga.ch">achim.geissler@intergga.ch</a>></em></strong>:<br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><br>Fra: Achim.geissler <<a href="mailto:achim.geissler@intergga.ch">achim.geissler@intergga.ch</a>><br>Emne: [esp-r] Re: Non-rectangular obstruction block<br>Til: <a href="mailto:perhaugaard@yahoo.dk">perhaugaard@yahoo.dk</a>, "ESP-r_ny" <<a href="mailto:esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk">esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk</a>><br>Dato: torsdag 9. december 2010 16.20<br><br> <div id="yiv1358892437yiv1129419890">Hi Per<br><br>you most likely need a newer ! version of ESP-r or must at least convert your .geo file to the new format with tags. Then you can define non-rectangular obstructions. There should be a menu item "convert to free form" (or similar) in the obstruction editing menu.<br><br>Best<br>Achim<br><br>--------- Original-Nachricht --------<br>Von: perhaugaard@yahoo..dk<br>An: "ESP-r_ny" <<a href="mailto:esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk">esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk</a>><br>Betreff: [esp-r] Non-rectangular obstruction block<br>Datum: 09/12/10 15:52<br><br> <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign="top"> <div>Hi,</div> <div> </div> <div>I am working in ESP-r version 11..4 modeling a building with a large non-rectangular roof which shades the south facaing facades.</div> <div> </div> <div>I read in a prior mail from Jon, that obstruction blocks can be modelled with 6 sides. This seens hardli possi! ble when looking at the .obs file. </div> <div> </div>My question is how can I model an obstruction block or shading which 5 or 6 sides? <div></div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> /Per</div></td></tr></tbody></table><br><br><br> <hr> <br>_______________________________________________<br>esp-r mailing list<br><a class="yiv1358892437yiv1129419890autolink" rel="nofollow">esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk</a><br><a class="yiv1358892437yiv1129419890autolink" href="http://lists.strath.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/esp-r" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.strath.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/esp-r</a><br>-----Inline-vedhæftet fil følger-----<br><br> <div class="yiv1358892437plainMail">_______________________________________________<br>esp-r mailing list<br><a rel="nofollow">esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk</a><br><a href="http://lists.strath.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/esp-r" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.strath.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/esp-r</a></div></div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table><br><br><br> <hr> <br>_______________________________________________<br>esp-r mailing list<br><a class="yiv1358892437autolink" href="http://dk.mc266.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk">esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk</a><br><a class="yiv1358892437autolink" href="http://lists.strath.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/esp-r" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.strath.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/esp-r</a> </div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table><br></blockquote></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div><a href="mailto:achim.geissler@intergga.ch">achim.geissler@intergga.ch</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div> <br></div></body></html>