<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Leo<div><br></div><div>if you are set up to recompile, you should be able to do what you want quite easily. The CFC control is defined in esrubld/complex_fenestration.F, subroutine CFC_control (line 3878)</div><div><br></div><div>Go to lines 4050 or thereabouts. Based on the rudimentary controls defined there, you can most likely implement what you want with little problem. Actually, the solrad used for control is dir+diff on the incident surface (the one for which the sensor is defined) so should already be what you want (although I am not entirely sure that this is part of the current release).</div><div><br></div><div>Best </div><div>Achim</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Mar 4, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Bakker, L.G. (Leo) wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="062251113-04032010"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dear All,</span><o:p></o:p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"> </p><span class="062251113-04032010"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">Try to pick up ESP where I left some decade ago..</font></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><o:p></o:p></font></font> </div></span><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We try to compute the effect of different control strategies for a venetian blind system using the CFC module.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We like to compare the following cases <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><span style="mso-list: Ignore">-<span style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">no shading <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><span style="mso-list: Ignore"><font size="3">-</font><span style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">shading applied if the effective total solar radiation (diff and dir) > 200W/m2 </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><span style="mso-list: Ignore"><font size="3">-</font><span style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">shading applied if the effective total solar radiation (diff and dir) > 350W/m2 </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: Arial"><span style="mso-list: Ignore"><font size="3">-</font><span style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </span></span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">manual controlled</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It seems I am able to select as sensor: horizontal diffuse or direct radiation (normal or total).<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am just wondering:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1- <span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>if there is a way to control based on the total solar radiation on the vertical CFC surface (as would be received by a sensor)?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">2- if it would be possible to use a temporal file to control the shading <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If this is not possible I will manipulate the weather file and define a wind direction of 0 degrees for the cases the shading should be applied and use that as a sensor.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I will then try to calculate the radiation on the CFC surface using a small 1 by 1 by 1 box with an window with 100 % transmittance and calculate how much solar radiation entered the box.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I wonder <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><span class="062251113-04032010">3</span>- if this box approach will work and give me the effective total solar radiation on the surface and </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><span class="062251113-04032010">4</span>- if there is a<span class="062251113-04032010"> </span><span class="062251113-04032010">simpler </span>alternative for my “weather workaround approach”<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; "><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="062251113-04032010"></span></font></div> <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="062251113-04032010"></span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="062251113-04032010"></span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="062251113-04032010">Thanks in advance,</span></font></div> <div><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 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