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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Felipe and David,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Simulating the same model proposed by David in DesingBuilder,
I have the following result:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Heating 8,99 Kw.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'>Cooling 2,44 Kw.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Rodrigo Perez.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=ES style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>De:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Felipe
Durán [mailto:felipe@b-green.cl] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Enviado el:</span></b> jueves, 10 de
septiembre de 2009 14:39<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Para:</span></b> Felipe Durán<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>CC:</span></b> Tang, David; esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk;
Tang, Kevin; leen peeters; Xing, Nina; Rodrigo Perez<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Asunto:</span></b> Re: [esp-r] Re: Heating
and Cooling Loads</span></font><span lang=ES><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>David,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I made a mistake and I simulated with esp-r using London Climate.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The rectified cooling and heating loads using CHL_Santiago_IWEC.epw for
the 1 zone 10x10x3 concrete box are:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>IES_VE 14,66 kW (heating) 5.27 kW (cooling)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>ESP-r 8,029 kW (heating) 2,24 kW (cooling)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Kind Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face="Century Gothic"><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>El 10 Sep <st1:metricconverter ProductID="2009, a" w:st="on">2009, a</st1:metricconverter>
las 13:31, Felipe Durán escribió:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>David,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thank you for your help.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The results of the 1 zone 10x10x3 concrete box are:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>IES_VE 14,66 kW (heating) 5,27 kW (cooling)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>ESP-r 11,90 kW (heating) 1,86 kW (cooling)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>1. Geometry: 1 zones of <st1:metricconverter ProductID="10 m" w:st="on">10
m</st1:metricconverter> x <st1:metricconverter ProductID="10 m" w:st="on">10 m</st1:metricconverter>
x <st1:metricconverter ProductID="3 m" w:st="on">3 m</st1:metricconverter>
high. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2. Materials (outside to inside)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2.1 External Wall: Cast Concrete 0,2m, U-value = 3,1963 (W/m2K)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2.2 Roof: Cast Concrete 0,2 U-value = 3,5354 (W/m2K)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2.3 Ground Floor: Cast Concrete <st1:metricconverter ProductID="0.2 m"
w:st="on">0.2 m</st1:metricconverter>, U-value = 2.8340 (W/m2K)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>3. Boundary Conditions: All the walls and the roof faces the outside.
The ground floor faces the ground.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>4. Run Period: 1/1 31/12 (whole year)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>5.No Internal gains<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>6. Climate file </span></font><span class=apple-style-span><font
size=1 face="Lucida Grande"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande"'>CHL_Santiago_IWEC.epw
(from the energyplus database)</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>7. Comfort band 20 Cº-24Cº, on Heating and Cooling Profile:
continiously<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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href="http://www.b-green.cl">www.b-green.cl</a> - 56 (2) 3431868<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>El 9 Sep <st1:metricconverter ProductID="2009, a" w:st="on">2009, a</st1:metricconverter>
las 22:56, Tang, David escribió:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Felipe,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I'd like to start with your '</span></font>a zone of 10 x 10
x 3 mt. high with no ventilation and no internal gains<font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>' model which is an excellent case
to evaluate the fundamental algorithms.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Please provide info of that model likewise.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Having worked at IES-VE for 8+ years and coded part of
Apache-sim and the whole of macroflo, it is interesting to see how
it works from user's point of view.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Regards,</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=CityBlueprint><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
CityBlueprint'>David Tang</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=CityBlueprint><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:CityBlueprint'>Chief
Engineer, Energy Solutions</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=CityBlueprint><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:CityBlueprint'>Owens
Corning</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=CityBlueprint><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:CityBlueprint'>T:
+86 21 6101 9587; F: +86 21 6101 9588; m: +86 13817249419</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
Felipe Durán [<a href="mailto:felipe@b-green.cl">mailto:felipe@b-green.cl</a>] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 10, 2009
1:01 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Tang, David<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> leen peeters; Tang, Kevin;
Xing, Nina; <a href="mailto:esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk">esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk</a>;
Rodrigo Perez<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [esp-r] Re: Heating
and Cooling Loads</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>David and Rodrigo, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thank you for your help.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I`ve simplify the model and the results of the 3-floor office building
are:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>IES_VE 390 kW (heating) 123 kW (cooling)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>ESP-r 246 kW (heating) 205 kW (cooling)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The model conditions of the 3-floor office building are:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>IES_VE 390 kW (heating) 123 kW (cooling)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>1. Geometry: 3 zones of <st1:metricconverter ProductID="25 m" w:st="on">25
m</st1:metricconverter> x <st1:metricconverter ProductID="60 m" w:st="on">60 m</st1:metricconverter>
x <st1:metricconverter ProductID="2.5 m" w:st="on">2.5 m</st1:metricconverter>
high. 40% of glazing ratio for all the orientations<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2. Orientation: North towards the long side (<st1:metricconverter
ProductID="25 meters" w:st="on">25 meters</st1:metricconverter>)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>3. Materials (outside to inside)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>3.1 External Wall: cast concrete 0,2m, Polystyrene 0.02m, Gypsum
Plasterboard 0,01m. U-value = 0.9597 (W/m2K)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>3.2 Window: Double glazing, clear float 6mm + 12mm cavity.
U-Value=2.82 (W/m2K)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>3.3 Roof: Cast concrete (lightweight) 0.05m, Polystyrene
0.15m, cast concrete 0,15m. U-value = 0.1859 (W/m2K)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>3.4 Ground Floor: Cast Concrete <st1:metricconverter ProductID="0.15 m"
w:st="on">0.15 m</st1:metricconverter>, polystyrene <st1:metricconverter
ProductID="0.05 m" w:st="on">0.05 m</st1:metricconverter>, U-value =
0.5041 (W/m2K)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>3.5 Slabs: cast Concrete 0.15, U-value = 3,2558 (W/m2K)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>4. Boundary Conditions: All the walls and the roof faces the outside.
The slabs are interiors and only the ground floor faces the grund.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>5. Run Period: 1/1 31/12 (whole year)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>6. Internal gains: Occupancy 6 m2/person (70 W Sensible, 35 W latent),
Lighting 8 W/m2, Equipment 5 W7m2. All the time for the whole year, including
nights, weekends, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>7. Climate file </span></font><span class=apple-style-span><font
size=1 face="Lucida Grande"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande"'>CHL_Santiago_IWEC.epw
(from the energyplus database)</span></font></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>8. Comfort band 20 Cº-24Cº<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>9. Ventilation: infiltration 0.25 (ach/h), auxiliari ventilatios 3.25
(ach/h) on ESP-r infiltration of 3.25 (ach/h)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thank you again<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Century Gothic"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic";
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Felipe Durán Palma</span></font></b></span><font
size=1 color=black face="Century Gothic"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Century Gothic";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic";color:black'>Arquitecto PUC,
MPhil. U. Cambridge<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic";color:black'>Director de
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Obispo Donoso 5 oficina 62 - Providencia - Santiago</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 color=black face="Century Gothic"><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic";color:black'><a
href="mailto:felipe@b-green.cl">felipe@b-green.cl</a> - <a
href="http://www.b-green.cl">www.b-green.cl</a> - 56 (2) 3431868<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>El 9 Sep <st1:metricconverter ProductID="2009, a" w:st="on">2009, a</st1:metricconverter>
las 00:22, Tang, David escribió:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Describe your model we'll run DOE2 and
EnergyPlus to see who's right.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>orientation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>boundary conditions (is the wall contact
outside, ground, other indoor space?)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Regards,</span></font>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=CityBlueprint><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
CityBlueprint'>David Tang</span></font> <br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Felipe Durán<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 09,
2009 5:10 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> leen peeters<br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [esp-r] Re: Heating and
Cooling Loads</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Leen, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I am working with the EPW climate file of Santiago de Chile in both
soft wares. I ve modelled a zone of 10 x 10 x 3 mt. high with no ventilation
and no internal gains. The results are:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>ESP-r = 11.9 (heating), 1.86 (cooling)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>IES = 14.6 (heating), 5.2 (cooling)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Now we got great differences in the cooling load. IES gave me 3 times
more cooling loads than ESP-r<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Any ideas how to go proceed?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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ProductID="2009, a" w:st="on">2009, a</st1:metricconverter> las 16:49, leen
peeters escribió:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Felipe,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>set you climate to some artifical constant climqte with constant
temperature, constant solar radiation,... That is one more set of variables
excluded<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2009/9/8 Felipe Durán <<a href="mailto:felipe@b-green.cl">felipe@b-green.cl</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Dear Samuel and Leen, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Actually, when I found out such big differences I ve modelled a very
simple 3-zone model and the differences persist. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I will try out with a simple box without ventilation and internal gains
and I will let you know the results. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thank you all for your help.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Try reducing your model complexity by modelling just one zone with
minimal <br>
information possible. Simulate for just one day. If the two softwares compare <br>
well keep building up the model in complexity.<br>
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-Aizaz<br>
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On Tuesday 08 September 2009 17:41, Felipe Durán wrote:<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I am modeling in both ESP-r and IES-VE and office building and the
results<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>for heating and cooling loads are very different.<br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> ESP-r = 269 kW (heating); 237 kW (cooling)<br>
IES-VE = 835 kW (Heating); 360 kW (cooling)<br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> Does anyone had a similar experience with such differences?<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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Arquitecto PUC, MPhil. U. Cambridge<br>
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