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<P align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=002550309-10032009>Dear Lewis Yook,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=002550309-10032009>You can describe objects with hanging surfaces. You
must create them in the zone: frontside and backside. Afterwards make the
boudary conditions:</SPAN></FONT></P><FONT color=#0000ff>
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color=#000000><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>The last step is to attribute the
boundary conditions of each of these new surfaces. There are two schools of
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</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA">the
traditional approach is to assign an adiabatic type to both surface. Thus they
act as a thermal sponge, but no heat crosses from one face to the other. In this
approach the constructions used should <B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">each represent</B> <B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">half the thickness</B> of the actual mass
of the entity.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: JA">an
alternative approach is to treat the two surfaces as partitions (i.e. connect
each to the other). This approach allows heat to flow from the front to the back
of the surface as well as acting as thermal mass. For this to work well use a
shorter timestep. Hier muss man dann <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">2x
die volle Dicke</B> ansetzen
(Leadenhall).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
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face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> </FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
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color=#000000><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>If internal mass has been added to a
room it interacts just as any other surface in terms of longwave and shortwave
radiation and convection. Consider whether radiation viewfactors should be
calculated and also whether you should include a shading/insolation analysis so
that sunlight falling on the mass at specific times is properly
recorded.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left></FONT><SPAN class=002550309-10032009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Regards</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P align=left><SPAN class=002550309-10032009><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Monika</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk
[mailto:esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk] <B>Im Auftrag von
</B>???<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Montag, 9. März 2009 22:48<BR><B>An:</B>
esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk<BR><B>Betreff:</B> [esp-r] How to describe desks and
furniture inside a zone?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.5"
align=justify><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dear
all.<BR></FONT></P>
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align=justify> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.5"
align=justify><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As I have heard
before, the esp-r allows me to describe some mass in a zone.</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.5"
align=justify> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.5"
align=justify><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It is sometimes
important because the heat capacity of the objects in a zone such as desk,
furniture and so on should be considered in the energy calculation.</FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.5"
align=justify> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.5"
align=justify><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I'm just
wondering HOW I CAN DESCRIBE some <SPAN class=il>floating</SPAN> mass or objects
inside a zone in ESP-r.</FONT></P>
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align=justify> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.5"
align=justify><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It seems that
those objects inside a zone give a considerable effect on temperature profile or
heating/cooliing loads.</FONT></P>
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align=justify> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.5"
align=justify><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Your Reply will
be appreciated.</FONT></P>
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align=justify> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.5"
align=justify><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thank
you.</FONT></P>
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align=justify> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 1.5"
align=justify><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Lewis
Yook</FONT></P><BR clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Team Manager,<BR>Integrated Simulation
Unit.<BR>Design and Simulation for Sustainability (DASS) consultants
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