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This is in response to the question of installation of Radiance on linux distros. Ubuntu is a debian based system. There is a website that explains the installation of radiance for such systems prepared by Francesco Anselmo.<BR>
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<A href="http://www.bozzograo.net/radiancewiki/doku.php/standard_unix_distribution">http://www.bozzograo.net/radiancewiki/doku.php/standard_unix_distribution</A><BR><BR>
However I'm not sure if this is what Per Haugaard needs.<BR>
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Cheers,<BR>
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Luis<BR>
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> From: esp-r-request@lists.strath.ac.uk<BR>> Subject: esp-r Digest, Vol 16, Issue 33<BR>> To: esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk<BR>> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:39:24 +0000<BR>> <BR>> Send esp-r mailing list submissions to<BR>> esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk<BR>> <BR>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<BR>> http://lists.strath.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/esp-r<BR>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<BR>> esp-r-request@lists.strath.ac.uk<BR>> <BR>> You can reach the person managing the list at<BR>> esp-r-owner@lists.strath.ac.uk<BR>> <BR>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<BR>> than "Re: Contents of esp-r digest..."<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Today's Topics:<BR>> <BR>> 1. Installation of Radiance for ESP-r 2 (Per Haugaard)<BR>> 2. Re: Installation of Radiance for ESP-r 2 (Geissler Achim)<BR>> 3. Re: Installation of Radiance for ESP-r 2 (Per Haugaard)<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 1<BR>> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:58:37 +0000 (GMT)<BR>> From: Per Haugaard <perhaugaard@yahoo.dk><BR>> Subject: [esp-r] Installation of Radiance for ESP-r 2<BR>> To: esp-r <esp-r@strath.ac.uk><BR>> Message-ID: <495086.69574.qm@web26603.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<BR>> <BR>> Dear ESP-r users,<BR>> <BR>> Since the "csh-package" is not installed in an typical Ubuntu installation the "./makeall install" can not be initiated. I have included this package but when I initiate the "./makeall install"-command I get the following error message:<BR>> <BR>> /usr/include/stdio.h:686: error: conflicting types for ?fseek?<BR>> /usr/include/stdio.h:654: error: previous declaration of ?fseek? was here<BR>> <BR>> and Radiance is not installed. I can't find "fseek" or matching file on my system or within my package manager. Does anyone have an idea what file to use instead of "fseek" and how I change the "rmake" command to match this file?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Thank you in advance and best regards<BR>> <BR>> Per Haugaard<BR>> <BR>> ______________________ <BR>> Per Haugaard,<BR>> Griffenfeldsgade 33, 2.tv<BR>> 2200 K?benhavn N<BR>> Denmark<BR>> <BR>> mobil: +45 26 39 06 40<BR>> E-mail: perhaugaard@yahoo.dk<BR>> <BR>> ----- Forwarded Message ----<BR>> From: Per Haugaard <perhaugaard@yahoo.dk><BR>> To: esp-r <esp-r@strath.ac.uk><BR>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:07:21 PM<BR>> Subject: [esp-r] Installation of Radiance for ESP-r<BR>> <BR>> Dear ESP-r Users<BR>> <BR>> I have run into trouble installing Radiance v3.8 on my Ubutu Linux operating system. I want to use Radiance along with ESP-r. I have downloaded unpacked the file to /opt/esru/bin/Radiance and I want to initiate the command "./makeall install" as written in the README file. This gives me the following error: "./makeall: no such file or directory". The file exist in the ray directory and I have added the following path to my .profile -file: /opt/esru/bin/Radiance/ and /opt/esru/bin/Radiance/ray<BR>> <BR>> How do I get around this?<BR>> <BR>> Thank you in advance and best regards<BR>> <BR>> Per Haugaard<BR>> <BR>> ______________________ <BR>> Per Haugaard,<BR>> Griffenfeldsgade 33, 2.tv<BR>> 2200 K?benhavn N<BR>> Denmark<BR>> <BR>> mobil: +45 26 39 06<BR>> 40<BR>> E-mail: perhaugaard@yahoo.dk<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Audi, Fiat, Peugeot, Skoda, Porsche, Toyota, Ford - Kelkoo har brugte biler til en hver smag! Klik her for at sammenligne priser. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Tr?nger du til at se det store billede? Kelkoo giver dig gode tilbud p? LCD TV! Se her http://dk.yahoo.com/r/pat/lcd<BR>> -------------- next part --------------<BR>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>> URL: http://lists.strath.ac.uk/archives/esp-r/attachments/20071129/dd7f9cdb/attachment-0001.html <BR>> -------------- next part --------------<BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> esp-r mailing list<BR>> esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk<BR>> http://lists.strath.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/esp-r<BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 2<BR>> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:07:14 +0100<BR>> From: "Geissler Achim" <Achim.Geissler@josef-gartner.ch><BR>> Subject: [esp-r] Re: Installation of Radiance for ESP-r 2<BR>> To: "Per Haugaard" <perhaugaard@yahoo.dk>, "esp-r"<BR>> <esp-r@strath.ac.uk><BR>> Message-ID:<BR>> <5410907208A9F149ADB6E44744892B3C291216@sgartgum1.gart.intra><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<BR>> <BR>> Dear Per,<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> as far as I remember, fseek is a Macro. Did you try a >grep ?ni ?fseek? *.h< in /usr/include ?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen / Best regards<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Achim Geissler<BR>> <BR>> ________________________________<BR>> <BR>> From: esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk [mailto:esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Per Haugaard<BR>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 1:59 PM<BR>> To: esp-r<BR>> Subject: [esp-r] Installation of Radiance for ESP-r 2<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Dear ESP-r users,<BR>> <BR>> Since the "csh-package" is not installed in an typical Ubuntu installation the "./makeall install" can not be initiated. I have included this package but when I initiate the "./makeall install"-command I get the following error message:<BR>> <BR>> /usr/include/stdio.h:686: error: conflicting types for ?fseek?<BR>> /usr/include/stdio.h:654: error: previous declaration of ?fseek? was here<BR>> <BR>> and Radiance is not installed. I can't find "fseek" or matching file on my system or within my package manager. Does anyone have an idea what file to use instead of "fseek" and how I change the "rmake" command to match this file?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Thank you in advance and best regards<BR>> <BR>> Per Haugaard<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ______________________<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Per Haugaard,<BR>> Griffenfeldsgade 33, 2.tv<BR>> 2200 K?benhavn N<BR>> Denmark<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> mobil: +45 26 39 06 40<BR>> E-mail: perhaugaard@yahoo.dk<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Forwarded Message ----<BR>> From: Per Haugaard <perhaugaard@yahoo.dk><BR>> To: esp-r <esp-r@strath.ac.uk><BR>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:07:21 PM<BR>> Subject: [esp-r] Installation of Radiance for ESP-r<BR>> <BR>> Dear ESP-r Users<BR>> <BR>> I have run into trouble installing Radiance v3.8 on my Ubutu Linux operating system. I want to use Radiance along with ESP-r. I have downloaded unpacked the file to /opt/esru/bin/Radiance and I want to initiate the command "./makeall install" as written in the README file. This gives me the following error: "./makeall: no such file or directory". The file exist in the ray directory and I have added the following path to my .profile -file: /opt/esru/bin/Radiance/ and /opt/esru/bin/Radiance/ray<BR>> <BR>> How do I get around this?<BR>> <BR>> Thank you in advance and best regards<BR>> <BR>> Per Haugaard<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ______________________<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Per Haugaard,<BR>> Griffenfeldsgade 33, 2.tv<BR>> 2200 K?benhavn N<BR>> Denmark<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> mobil: +45 26 39 06 40<BR>> E-mail: perhaugaard@yahoo.dk<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ________________________________<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Audi, Fiat, Peugeot, Skoda, Porsche, Toyota, Ford - Kelkoo har brugte biler til en hver smag! Klik her <http://dk.yahoo.com/r/pat/mmb> for at sammenligne priser.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ________________________________<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Tr?nger du til at se det store billede? Kelkoo giver dig gode tilbud p? LCD TV <http://dk.yahoo.com/r/pat/lcd> !<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -------------- next part --------------<BR>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>> URL: http://lists.strath.ac.uk/archives/esp-r/attachments/20071129/66939487/attachment-0001.html <BR>> <BR>> ------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> Message: 3<BR>> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:38:26 +0000 (GMT)<BR>> From: Per Haugaard <perhaugaard@yahoo.dk><BR>> Subject: [esp-r] Re: Installation of Radiance for ESP-r 2<BR>> To: Geissler Achim <Achim.Geissler@josef-gartner.ch>, esp-r<BR>> <esp-r@strath.ac.uk><BR>> Message-ID: <924197.75147.qm@web26609.mail.ukl.yahoo.com><BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<BR>> <BR>> Dear ESP-r users<BR>> <BR>> I just tried the command and unfortunately without any luck. Here is the reply: <BR>> <BR>> root@pha-Linux:/usr/include# grep ?ni ?fseek? *.h<BR>> grep: ?fseek?: No such file or directory<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Best regards<BR>> <BR>> Per Haugaard<BR>> <BR>> ______________________ <BR>> Per Haugaard,<BR>> Griffenfeldsgade 33, 2.tv<BR>> 2200 K?benhavn N<BR>> Denmark<BR>> <BR>> mobil: +45 26 39 06 40<BR>> E-mail: perhaugaard@yahoo.dk<BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----<BR>> From: Geissler Achim <Achim.Geissler@josef-gartner.ch><BR>> To: Per Haugaard <perhaugaard@yahoo.dk>; esp-r <esp-r@strath.ac.uk><BR>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:07:14 PM<BR>> Subject: [esp-r] Re: Installation of Radiance for ESP-r 2<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <!--<BR>> _filtered {font-family:"MS Mincho";<BR>> panose-1:2 2 6 9 4 2 5 8 3 4;}<BR>> _filtered {font-family:Tahoma;<BR>> panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}<BR>> _filtered {<BR>> panose-1:2 2 6 9 4 2 5 8 3 4;}<BR>> /* Style Definitions */<BR>> <BR>> p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal<BR>> <BR>> {margin:0cm;<BR>> margin-bottom:.0001pt;<BR>> font-size:12.0pt;<BR>> font-family:"Times New Roman";}<BR>> a:link, span.MsoHyperlink<BR>> <BR>> {color:blue;<BR>> text-decoration:underline;}<BR>> a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed<BR>> <BR>> {color:blue;<BR>> text-decoration:underline;}<BR>> p<BR>> <BR>> {margin-right:0cm;<BR>> margin-left:0cm;<BR>> font-size:12.0pt;<BR>> font-family:"Times New Roman";}<BR>> span.EmailStyle17<BR>> <BR>> {font-family:Arial;<BR>> color:navy;}<BR>> _filtered {<BR>> margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt;}<BR>> div.Section1<BR>> <BR>> {}<BR>> --><BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Dear Per,<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> as far as I remember, fseek is a Macro.<BR>> <BR>> Did you try a >grep ?ni ?fseek? *.h< in /usr/include ?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Mit<BR>> <BR>> freundlichen Gr?ssen / Best regards<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Achim<BR>> <BR>> Geissler<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From:<BR>> <BR>> esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk [mailto:esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Per Haugaard<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007<BR>> <BR>> 1:59 PM<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> To: esp-r<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Subject: [esp-r] Installation of<BR>> <BR>> Radiance for ESP-r 2<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Dear ESP-r users,<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Since the "csh-package" is not installed in an typical Ubuntu<BR>> <BR>> installation the "./makeall install" can not be initiated. I have<BR>> <BR>> included this package but when I initiate the "./makeall<BR>> <BR>> install"-command I get the following error message:<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> /usr/include/stdio.h:686: error: conflicting types for ?fseek?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> /usr/include/stdio.h:654: error: previous declaration of ?fseek? was here<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> and Radiance is not installed. I can't find "fseek" or matching file<BR>> <BR>> on my system or within my package manager. Does anyone have an idea what file<BR>> <BR>> to use instead of "fseek" and how I change the "rmake"<BR>> <BR>> command to match this file?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Thank you in advance and best regards<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Per Haugaard<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ______________________<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Per Haugaard,<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Griffenfeldsgade 33, 2.tv<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> 2200 K?benhavn N<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Denmark<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> mobil: +45 26 39 06 40<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> E-mail: perhaugaard@yahoo.dk<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Forwarded Message<BR>> <BR>> ----<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> From: Per Haugaard <perhaugaard@yahoo.dk><BR>> <BR>> <BR>> To: esp-r <esp-r@strath.ac.uk><BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:07:21 PM<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Subject: [esp-r] Installation of Radiance for ESP-r<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Dear ESP-r Users<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> I have run into trouble installing Radiance v3.8 on my Ubutu Linux operating<BR>> <BR>> system. I want to use Radiance along with ESP-r. I have downloaded unpacked the<BR>> <BR>> file to /opt/esru/bin/Radiance and I want to initiate the command<BR>> <BR>> "./makeall install" as written in the README file. This gives me the<BR>> <BR>> following error: "./makeall: no such file or directory". The file<BR>> <BR>> exist in the ray directory and I have added the following path to my .profile<BR>> <BR>> -file: /opt/esru/bin/Radiance/ and /opt/esru/bin/Radiance/ray<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> How do I get around this?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Thank you in advance and best regards<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Per Haugaard<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ______________________<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Per Haugaard,<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Griffenfeldsgade 33, 2.tv<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> 2200 K?benhavn N<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Denmark<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> mobil: +45 26 39 06 40<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> E-mail: perhaugaard@yahoo.dk<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Audi, Fiat, Peugeot, Skoda, Porsche, Toyota, Ford - Kelkoo har brugte biler til en hver smag! Klik her for at<BR>> <BR>> sammenligne priser.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Tr?nger du til at se det store billede? Kelkoo giver<BR>> <BR>> dig gode tilbud p? LCD TV!<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Tr?nger du til at se det store billede? Kelkoo giver dig gode tilbud p? LCD TV! 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