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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=587491909-13092007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Hi Achim,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=587491909-13092007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>thanks for the tip, but the first edge is already the
bottom-horizontal, the next edge is a vertical...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=587491909-13092007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>looks like a problem of the windows version. After
Georgius' tip i used a linux-version and there it worked. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=587491909-13092007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Maybe ish uses a part of radiance for the calculation,
whose esp-r supprot isn't comprised under windows yet...?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>B<SPAN class=587491909-13092007>est
regards,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=587491909-13092007>eiko</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><BR></DIV></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk
[mailto:esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk] <B>Im Auftrag von </B>Geissler
Achim<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Mittwoch, 12. September 2007 08:35<BR><B>An:</B> Heiko
Wöhrle; esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk<BR><B>Betreff:</B> [esp-r] Re: ISH problem:
ignored (X face of...)<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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Heiko,</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">checking the mail you
quote I noticed one important point seems to be missing:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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The shaded surface should have a horizontal “first edge” (edge between first two
vertices). Its best to have this first edge be the lower one, in
addition.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regards,</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Achim</SPAN></FONT></P>
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esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk [mailto:esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Heiko
Wöhrle<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, September
11, 2007 1:41 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
esp-r@lists.strath.ac.uk<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [esp-r] ISH problem: ignored (X
face of...)</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hello,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">after trying to set up a new modell
with obstructions i expirienced the follwoing error:</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">for
every surface calculation i get an error: Block ObstrBlock
ignored (X face of Surf-5 ) @ time
...</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">There are no shading
results.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The error occurs not only at complex
models with tiny spaces between obstructions and zone-surfaces but although if i
just draw a new zone as a box an put one obstruction in front of it.... (see
screenshot)</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To make it even more difficult: if i
put an obstruction in front of an exepmlar project, the callculation works
fine...</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">i red the posting from jon
(08.11.2006) about shading but the hints didn't resolve my problem...
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks for any
ideas!</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Best regards,</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Heiko Wöhrle</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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