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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Hi Heiko,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>for current architecture, that is probably one of the most limiting features of ESP-r: Direct radiation is followed through one transparent layer, only! For subsequent zones, the radiation is diffuse.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>As far as I am aware, using Radiance does not help, because radiance looks at light, only.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>One workaround is to tell ESP-r to distribute the incoming radiation to two main surfaces (somewhere in the construction menue branch). However, that has the limitation that the distribution chosen can not be changed during simulation. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Another idea is maybe to check what angles of incidence occur and maybe expand the uppermost zone of the atrium so that most direct radiation is taken care of in it.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>For what its worth ...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Regards,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Achim</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> From: esp-r-bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk [<A HREF="mailto:esp-r-">mailto:esp-r-</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> bounces@lists.strath.ac.uk] On Behalf Of esp-r@heikowoehrle.de</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2006 10:25 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To: ESP-r mailing list</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Subject: [esp-r] Insolation through other zones</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Hello outthere,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> is there a way of getting direct radiation from another zone? i'm</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> modelling a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> atrium at the moment with five zones stacked over each other, with</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> fictious</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> surfaces between them.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> With the normal calculation it looks like only the top zone gets the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> radiation</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> from the glas roof, the other zones only get a diffuse radiation from the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> top</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> zone.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> This may be appropirate for vertical glazings but with a horizontal</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> glazing the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ground zone should receive nearly all radiation on a summer midday.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Is there any solution via the ish-module oder by calculating the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> daylight-factor? I was playing aorund with ish a bit but it looks like it</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> works</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> only for single zones with a transparent surface to external an not with</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> transparent/fictious surfaces to other zones.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> thanks in advance</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Heiko Woehrle</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
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