[esp-r] Re: How about a meeting of the ESP-r community at eSim 2010 in Manitoba in May

[Jon Hand]

Ian and Iain - seems like an evening get-together would
be a good idea.  I have little or no idea what NRCan and
NRC and the Universities in Canada are wanting for future
evolution.

My wish list includes things like...

a) dropping the old geometry file format so that we can move to longer names
for entities and use free-format entries

b) moving to casual gain schedules that support sub-hourly definitions and
include useful information like metabolic rates

c) consolidate several of the utility modules (move viewfactor calcs
into the project manager and merge the micotoxin utility into the
project manager and res).

d) move to directly using the EPW cliamate data file (who needs
random access climate data when we can scan and hold in memory)?

e) rationalize the record format of the results analysis file so that
large models require less space, more data slots for computed
values are available and scanning of results files takes seconds rather
than minutes.

f) add an interface to the XML reporting specifications so that ordinary
people can define useful reporting in the alternative format.

g) move to a graphical definition of flow networks

h) use user supplied attributes of surfaces e.g. Door, undercut crack
to automatically populate flow networks

i) improved export and import to DXF and other simulation tools

j) extensions to the ESP-r META file format (for compact model descriptions)

And there are many more that others might be thinking of and
want to chat with others about.

And eSim 2010 is a good venue for bouncing ideas around.  Lets
hear some more suggestions and get the community talking!

Regards, Jon Hand
________________________________________
From: Ian Beausoleil-Morrison [ibeausol at mae.carleton.ca]
Sent: 11 March 2010 13:29
To: 'Macdonald, Iain'; Jon Hand
Cc: 'Evenson, Devin'
Subject: RE: [esp-r] How about a meeting of the ESP-r community at eSim 2010 in Manitoba in May

Jon / Iain,

The gatherings we tried in Glasgow (2009) and Beijing (2007) were not
terribly productive.  For these we attempted to squeeze a meeting in during
a conference lunch break, which does not work terribly well.  People are
busy during a conference so if we want to have a focused discussion (which I
think would be very valuable), we really need to book a half or whole day.
The big challenge will be convincing people to stick around for this (we
tried in Beijing, but the response was poor).  Alternatively, a more social
gathering over a drink and a meal would be beneficial, but I would not
bother trying to solicit presentations and technical discussions.

- Ian


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Macdonald, Iain [mailto:Iain.Macdonald at nrc-cnrc.gc.ca]
> Sent: March 5, 2010 7:56
> To: 'Jon Hand'; 'Ian Beausoleil-Morrison'
> Cc: 'Evenson, Devin'
> Subject: RE: [esp-r] How about a meeting of the ESP-r community at eSim
2010
> in Manitoba in May
>
> Jon,
>
> A workshop would be a great idea. I was frustrated at what appeared to be
a
> lack of agenda/objectives at the meeting in Glasgow. I think that we need
to
> define where ESP-r is going and also why it must change (e.g. common
blocks
> are on there way out and will not be supported in future years!). This
needs
> the community to get together and define common aims.
>
> Devin (cc'd) above is organising the conference and if you want to take
the
> lead with and ESP-r workshop then please work with Devin to get things
worked
> out.
>
> Iain
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: esp-r-bounces at lists.strath.ac.uk [mailto:esp-r-
> bounces at lists.strath.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Jon Hand
> Sent: March 5, 2010 4:25 AM
> To: esp-r at lists.strath.ac.uk
> Subject: [esp-r] How about a meeting of the ESP-r community at eSim 2010
in
> Manitoba in May
>
>
> That fun eSim conference of IBPSA Canada is going to be held in Manitoba
19-
> 20 May
> of this year.  I am planning on taking part in the conference and there
may
> be others
> in the ESP-r development or user community who will also be at eSim 2010.
>
> At a minimum we should plan on getting together for a beer and sharing
> stories,
> a slightly grander scheme could be to plan a dinner meeting so that there
was
> more time for discussions.  And what about a one-two hour
> discussion/roundtable during
> the conference so we can discover who is doing what, ideas for the future
and
> some
> critical networking.
>
> And if there is interest and a venue that can be arranged I would be
willing
> to arrive
> just before or stay just after the conference for a workshop.  Topics
might
> include
> source code control (which makes some folk cross-eyed), the new and
evolving
> META file format which several 3rd party developers are using for
> communications
> with ESP-r, network flow and controls.  And you might have additional
> ideas....
>
> So.... have a think and shout out your suggestions and hopefully there
will
> be many opportunities at eSim!
>
> Regards, Jon Hand
>
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