[esp-r] Re: imaginary surface

Paul Strachan paul at esru.strath.ac.uk
Wed Apr 16 09:08:50 BST 2008


Stefan,

Yes, you should assume the air is well mixed across the fictitious 
surface, so you could include a high ventilation exchange by specifying 
this in the operations file, or if you have a flow network, then you can 
have a large opening (low flow resistance) between the two zones.

Regards
Paul

Smith Stefan wrote:
> Dear Paul,
> Out of interest..
>  
> How would this effect fluid flow? Would you need to add some 
> ventilation operation to connect the zones? 
>  
> Regards,
> Stefan
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>  Hello ESP-r users,
> I have a question about the materials.
>  Is it possible to separate a big volume in different parts by 
> inserting an
> "imaginary" surface ?
> My objective is to analyze a big room in different parts, but I think, I
> need an "imaginary" surface to do that.
>  Do you have any suggestion ?, thanks
>
> Regards,
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> Francesco
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> From: paul strachan <paul at esru.strath.ac.uk>
> Subject: [esp-r] Re: imaginary surface
> To: "F. G. Azzaro" <azzarognu at gmail.com>,
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> Dear Francesco,
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> All zones must be fully bounded. Therefore, you should create a
> "fictitious" construction that will have minimal impact on the heat
> transfer. In essence you should have a thin layer which is very
> conductive, no appreciable thermal mass, perfectly transparent and no
> solar absorption.  Details can be found in the FAQ on the website under
> "fictitious surfaces and zone subdivision".
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> Regards
> Paul
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> F. G. Azzaro wrote:
> > Hello ESP-r users,
> > I have a question about the materials.
> > Is it possible to separate a big volume in different parts by
> > inserting an "imaginary" surface ?
> > My objective is to analyze a big room in different parts, but I think,
> > I need an "imaginary" surface to do that.
> > Do you have any suggestion ?, thanks
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Francesco
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