[esp-r] Re: esp-r Digest, Vol 13, Issue 10 HELP - Ploycarb/Perspex
Geissler Achim
Achim.Geissler at josef-gartner.ch
Wed Aug 29 10:48:14 BST 2007
Hi George,
the IGDB (Window, LBNL) has a few entries e.g. on "Lexan(R)". You could build together whatever you need from that, possibly.
Best regards,
Achim
Mit freundlichen Grüssen / Best regards
Achim Geissler
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> Subject: [esp-r] Re: esp-r Digest, Vol 13, Issue 10 HELP -
> Ploycarb/Perspex
>
> Are there any values available for double thickness polycarb, such as
> would
> be used in a large greenhouse?
>
> Regards
>
> George
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> 1. Types of glass (Ing Liang Wong)
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> From: "Ing Liang Wong" <ing.wong at ulster.ac.uk>
> Subject: [esp-r] Types of glass
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> Dear all,
>
> I have a look at the types of glass and optical properties of the
> double-glazing (6-12-6mm) in ESP-r database and have a few questions.
>
> The absorptions at the external and internal clear float glass layers are
> taken from DCF7671_06nb, which appear to be:
> 0.157 0.172 0.185 0.201 0.202
> 0.117 0.124 0.127 0.112 0.077
>
> 1) Why are these values be so different, given the internal and external
> have the same thickness (both are 6mm thick)?
>
> 2) What are the type of glass used for double glazing? In construction
> database, plate glass has been used for the double-glazed windows; however,
> the optical properties are for clear float glass with vis transmittance of
> 0.76.
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> Regards,
> Wong
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> From: "Jon Hand (clcv10)" <jon at esru.strath.ac.uk>
> Subject: [esp-r] Re: Types of glass
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> A recent question about optical properties (outside and inside panes)
>
> > The absorptions at the external and internal clear float glass
> > layers are taken from DCF7671_06nb, which appear to be:
> > 0.157 0.172 0.185 0.201 0.202
> > 0.117 0.124 0.127 0.112 0.077
>
> The treatment of optical properties, as calculated by tools such as
> WIS and
> Window 5.2 and used by simulation tools such as ESP-r are based on
> absorption being calculated from the outside to the inside.
>
> The absorption of an inner layer, is, by tradition, calculated
> "relative" to that of
> an outer layers. Another way of saying this is if 100 units reach
> the outer glass
> and it absorbs 40 units any inside layers of glass can only know
> about the
> remaining 60 units rather than the initial 100 units. The values
> seen in the
> optical database take this into account.
>
> In ESP-r the thermophysical properties of glass are held separately from
> the optial properties of the glass. A thermophysical material
> labeled as
> clear float might have a range of possible optical properties. It is
> up to
> authors that define databases and the links between databases to ensure
> that the names of the entities are clear and the correct associations
> are defined. It is certainly the case that some of the names that have
> been given to database entities are a bit opaque. We are working
> towards
> allowing longer (and hopefully more expressive names).
>
> -ESRU
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